Korean invented chinese language
Re: Korean invented chinese language
Hmm, green onions and garlic have eggs in them? Just like peanuts are made from alien brains? I guess it makes sense...
Re: Korean invented chinese language
Enough, this topic is just provocating us to hate each other, and nobody (except some stone-head people) would believe that chinese character (han zi) is invented by Korean...
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peterkim
Re: Korean invented chinese language
to dyl.
The foundation legend of the Shang dynasty (1766-1122 B.C.) begins
with a story of divine bird and egg (Ch'i). This kind of foundation
legends are only found among Dongyi (East I or Tung-i) people, not
Chinese Han or Hua [e.g., refer to Hung, P (1990) New light on the
origins of the Manchus. Harvard J. Asiatic Studies, Vol. 50 (1):
239-282.]
Therefore, we can know that rulers of the Shang dynasty were Dong-yi
people, not Hua. According to history books, the Shang and the Old
Chosun (old Korea) had interacted frequently since the foundation of
the Shang. But, when the Shang was defeated, rulers escaped to
neighbouring areas where Korean ancestors dominated (old Chosun), and
history text books tell that Korean natives accepted those fugitives,
which was apparently impossible if both groups had not have a common
ethnicity, or at least a common language. The fugitives did not
escaped to other Tungus groups such Su-shen or I-lou (or Mo-ho later).
The same situation occurred again later between Balhae (Bohai) and
Koryo in the 7th century.
The foundation legend of the Shang dynasty (1766-1122 B.C.) begins
with a story of divine bird and egg (Ch'i). This kind of foundation
legends are only found among Dongyi (East I or Tung-i) people, not
Chinese Han or Hua [e.g., refer to Hung, P (1990) New light on the
origins of the Manchus. Harvard J. Asiatic Studies, Vol. 50 (1):
239-282.]
Therefore, we can know that rulers of the Shang dynasty were Dong-yi
people, not Hua. According to history books, the Shang and the Old
Chosun (old Korea) had interacted frequently since the foundation of
the Shang. But, when the Shang was defeated, rulers escaped to
neighbouring areas where Korean ancestors dominated (old Chosun), and
history text books tell that Korean natives accepted those fugitives,
which was apparently impossible if both groups had not have a common
ethnicity, or at least a common language. The fugitives did not
escaped to other Tungus groups such Su-shen or I-lou (or Mo-ho later).
The same situation occurred again later between Balhae (Bohai) and
Koryo in the 7th century.
Re: Korean invented chinese language
Just continue this topic in another forum, maybe chinese forum, and starts it as 'the relationship between ancient chinese and korean', okay? so it won't keep hanging inside cantonese forum, which has no connection with korea...
Some little addition:
The foundation of today chinese language came from Qin dynasty, not Shang, so although Shang version of chinese language ever existed before, it has been destroyed by Qin (remember that Qin defeated six other kingdoms, he also forced people from other kingdoms to adopt Qin's language), am I wrong?
Some little addition:
The foundation of today chinese language came from Qin dynasty, not Shang, so although Shang version of chinese language ever existed before, it has been destroyed by Qin (remember that Qin defeated six other kingdoms, he also forced people from other kingdoms to adopt Qin's language), am I wrong?
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Dyl.
Re: Korean invented chinese language
To peterkim,
I stick by what was written earlier. If you think that myths are a firm basis for your theories, so be it.
Dyl.
I stick by what was written earlier. If you think that myths are a firm basis for your theories, so be it.
Dyl.
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Hung Dao Dai Vuong
Re: Korean invented chinese language
everything is "made in China"; hope everyone's happy now!
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hungdaodaivuong
Re: Korean invented chinese language
it is so ironic that as the Vietnamese were ready to have their own writing system, it was destroyed by the Chinese invaders during the 1000 years of occupation.
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hungdaodaivuong
Re: Korean invented chinese language
".......Chinese inventions can literally fill volumes of books. How do the Koreans and Japanese compare?
So even in the area of cuisine, it seems that Chinese has better standing throughout the world than Korean or Japanese does......"
Campbell,
You are such an idiot. Just look at the population of China, they outnumbered the Koreans and Japs at around 15 to 1 so of course they must have more talents than the Korean and the Japs. Try to imagine doing a project by yourself versus a group of 15 people and see how well you can compete with them. I find it so pathetic that the chinese have the rights to claim that they invent everything and throw out their "legiz evidence" to prove that they are correct but when someone also throw out their evidence to prove their points, those evidence is considered crap. Seriously Campbell, i don't know if you have the brain to think or not but based on what you wrote seem like you don't!
So even in the area of cuisine, it seems that Chinese has better standing throughout the world than Korean or Japanese does......"
Campbell,
You are such an idiot. Just look at the population of China, they outnumbered the Koreans and Japs at around 15 to 1 so of course they must have more talents than the Korean and the Japs. Try to imagine doing a project by yourself versus a group of 15 people and see how well you can compete with them. I find it so pathetic that the chinese have the rights to claim that they invent everything and throw out their "legiz evidence" to prove that they are correct but when someone also throw out their evidence to prove their points, those evidence is considered crap. Seriously Campbell, i don't know if you have the brain to think or not but based on what you wrote seem like you don't!
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Hung Dao Dai Vuong
Re: Korean invented chinese language
"......I even heard once, but I cannot prove it or give the source, that the Chinese were on the verge of inventing a car many many centuries...."
why don't you and your chinese friends invent some "facts" to proove this, 2000 years later no one will ever know!
why don't you and your chinese friends invent some "facts" to proove this, 2000 years later no one will ever know!
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HKB
Re: Korean invented chinese language
technically, at the time when cHina had all its inventions, there wasn't a clear distinction of "Korean" or "Japanese" they weren't really nationalities yet. except for maybe Japan.