Pan-Minnanism

Discussions on the Hokkien (Minnan) language.
Ah-bin
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Re: Pan-Minnanism

Postby Ah-bin » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:04 pm

With every man and his dog making new Romanisations for Hokkien, the prospect of unity seems a long way off!

amhoanna wrote:Welcome back. I began learning Teochew recently, the Tiô'iôⁿ style. I've been going over the sound system of Teochew, Hokkien, and Haklau (海陸豐) to see what needs to be done to set up a system of kana (in the style of hiragana) for Hoklo.


I've happily noticed a bit of Teochew around in your posts, it's something I would like to have a go at properly soon. I am off to Thailand next week, and will try to track down the Textbook of Thai Teochew I couldn;t get hold of last time. Which is the sort closest to what is spoken in Thailand?

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Re: Pan-Minnanism

Postby amhoanna » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:19 am

Teochew in my posts?? Most likely just Nusantaranisms...

According to a Delta source,
曼谷偏潮安腔,金塔偏揭陽腔,宅棍腔挺像現在汕頭混合腔,六省偏是澄海與潮陽混合體而發音已有所變化,朱洋(Vinh Chau) 較特殊,混合了很多福建話發音,又夾雜越棉諸語,連唐話辭彙也別具一格。


潮安 is "Tiociu baku", the traditional "best Teochew".

宅棍 is a native Hoklo name for Saigon. 六省 is a Chinese word for the Mekong Delta. 朱洋 is an unmoneyed town by the sea in the far reaches of the Delta. The Viet name is 永州. I have been there once and it was the only place in Vietnam where I saw advertising (just a big 看板 or two) in Khmer. The Khmer, Teochew and Vietnamese-speaking populations are roughly 1:1:1 and all groups seem to be maintaining strongly. A very interesting spot for some future fieldwork.

Ah-bin
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Re: Pan-Minnanism

Postby Ah-bin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:50 pm

That's good to know, I shall work out what that accent is from a bit of research and try my best. What i would eventually like to do is make dictionaries for all the various types of Chinese from SEA, Borneo Hakka, Thai Teochew, Bun-sio Hainanese as spoken in Malaysia, and so on.

I've heard also that the delta is fascinating, there is an anthropologist from ANU who has made the area his special field of study (Philip Taylor) and I know a few historians who are interested in the chinese migration there as well.


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