Tjan Djie Siong

Translation to and from Minnan
yuminnan
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Tjan Djie Siong

Postby yuminnan » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:53 am

I would like to ask if anybody could help me with the correct characters for a Chinese name from a family member called Tjan Djie Siong. The family lived in Indonesia from 1870 until aprox. 1960
I know the characters of his brother, Tjan Djie Peek.
如柏曾
I would also be nice to know the meaning of Djie Siong and Djie Peek.

I'm also interested in the characters of the father. He was called Tjan Lian Tjioe

yuminnan
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Re: Tjan Djie Siong

Postby yuminnan » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:01 pm

I mixed up the correct characters....
Tjan Djie Peek is written like this:

曾如柏

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Re: Tjan Djie Siong

Postby amhoanna » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:01 pm

"Tjan Djie Siong" would probably be 曾如松. "Siong" could be a lot of different characters, but, since the brother is 柏, my money says "Siong" is almost surely 松. 松柏 is a set phrase in Chinese, with connotations of longevity and health...

如松 Jîsiong means LIKE A PINE.

如柏 Jîpek means LIKE A CEDAR.

Tjan Lian Tjioe could be any one of hundreds of combinations, e.g. 曾聯洲. There's almost no way to know for sure w/o more clues.

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Re: Tjan Djie Siong

Postby SimL » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:08 am

>> Tjan Djie Peek is written like this: 曾如柏 [Dutch spelling]

>> 如柏 Jîpek means LIKE A CEDAR [POJ]

How lovely that Dutch orthography and POJ both give consistent ways of spelling the Hokkien [e] sound. The silly informal/traditional Malaysian system (based on English spelling) variously spells it "-ai-", "-ei-", "-e-". I've seen "phek" (don't know the character, I just knew the person, so I know how she pronounced it) spelled "Phaik"; 德 is commonly spelled "Teik" or "Tek" or "Teck"; 玉 is usually spelled "Gek", but "Gaik" is known too; etc.


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