Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

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Tien
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Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby Tien » Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:56 am

Hi,

Need help translating chinese names to hokkien:

1) 陈俊良 chen jun liang
2) 陈冠佑 chen guan you

Thanks for helping !

xng
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby xng » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:31 pm

陈俊良 Tan Cun Liong
陈冠佑 Tan Kuan Yiu (actually, it is 'IU' but it is difficult for non chinese to read)

AndrewAndrew
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby AndrewAndrew » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:22 am

xng wrote:陈俊良 Tan Cun Liong
陈冠佑 Tan Kuan Yiu (actually, it is 'IU' but it is difficult for non chinese to read)


Tan Choon Leong, &
Tan Kuan Eu/Yew

would be the normal Malaysian/Singaporean spellings.

Tien
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby Tien » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:35 pm

Thank you guys.. It help alot...:)

xng
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby xng » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:00 am

AndrewAndrew wrote:
xng wrote:陈俊良 Tan Cun Liong
陈冠佑 Tan Kuan Yiu (actually, it is 'IU' but it is difficult for non chinese to read)


Tan Choon Leong, &
Tan Kuan Eu/Yew

would be the normal Malaysian/Singaporean spellings.


You shouldn't use 'Ch' as that is usually the aspirated 'C'.

If Cun sounds like 'cunt' then maybe should approximate to 'Joon'.

It is just like the difference between Tan and Than.

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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby SimL » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:50 am

xng wrote:You shouldn't use 'Ch' as that is usually the aspirated 'C'.

I disagree with this. The point xng makes is correct, but the "traditional Malay(si)an/Singapore" spelling usually didn't distinguish the Hokkien "ts" from "tsh" (i.e. the unaspirated vs aspirated affricate) - both were usually written "ch-"***. This is a nuisance and a pity, but as we all "live within a certain cultural context", I feel that it's fine to submit to some of the limitations of that particular cultural context.

This was (I feel) Andrew's original point anyway. If one lives in Malaysia/Singapore, and one wants to have a Hokkien name, then it's fine to conform to the "traditional Malay(si)an/Singapore" cultural tradition for writing this name in roman letters. For example, if one wants to name one's son "Boon Hock", then, one should spell it that way, instead of "Bun Hok", if one lives in Malaysia/Singapore.

But that's just my opinion. And xng's original point of the aspiration is also valid.

SimL
***: I do however have an uncle whose name is spelled "Chheng Hock".

xng
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby xng » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:28 pm

SimL wrote:SimL
***: I do however have an uncle whose name is spelled "Chheng Hock".


The point is that English romanisation is inconsistent. If you romanised it as Chh, most people will be confused and will just simplify it to Ch. Then there will be no difference between Ch and c.

C in some cases becomes K in English eg. Cook. This is an idiosyncrasy of English.
And that would make K consonant obsolete if we were to follow English exactly.

To be consistent, all Kh, Th, Ch, Ph should be aspirated.

Using J is also not a perfect solution but its the closest in sound.... so it is up to the parents what they want to use. :mrgreen:

AndrewAndrew
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby AndrewAndrew » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:51 pm

Or follow Tailo and use ts- and tsh-

j_pusaka
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby j_pusaka » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:11 pm

In some places 良 is pronounced as "liang"

keviniango
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Re: Please help translate 2 chinese name to Hokkien !

Postby keviniango » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:56 pm

how do you pronounce in hokkien? thanks.
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