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by amhoanna
Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:45 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu
Replies: 14
Views: 38945

Re: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu

Who exactly do you bean by 中華 establishment? I use the term very precisely indeed, so precisely that some people get mad. :lol: There are two political establishments that call themselves 中華. While they did not create the term, they popularized it; the term was pretty obscure before they picked it ...
by amhoanna
Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:29 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 54150

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

what we really need is a system that combines kanji with phonetic elements in an elegant way. And there can be no substitute, esp. not an all-kanji or no-kanji system whose success could prevent the formation of a kanji+phonetic medium. To those that say 漢羅 is pretty, I have very little to say. 漢羅 ...
by amhoanna
Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:22 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 54150

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

Hehe, soolí-soolí--lah. Stupid thing to say. I had been about to put down "Northern European / Modern Chinese", but didn't b/c U are not the latter, in a conventional sense. I agree that language learners and non-native speakers are part of the speech community. I didn't and wouldn't imply...
by amhoanna
Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:48 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu
Replies: 14
Views: 38945

Re: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu

嗯 was originally only only the asking ńg (Pinyin) in Mandarin? I wasn't aware of that. How was the confirming ǹg originally represented then? Hmmmm.... What do mean by "originally"? Anyways, the problem is, that interjections are rather rare in "漢文" writing; you've got 兮 but tha...
by amhoanna
Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:26 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 54150

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

This way, you can finally go and teach Hokkiens how to write their language without requiring the reader to put so much effort into it that many people are just too lazy to even try.


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Another North European trying to convince us to forget about aesthetics. 8)
by amhoanna
Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:29 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 54150

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

so if we want a distinct kana for every syllable Not necessary. in every tone Also not necessary, although it would be nice. Most of the high-frequency kanji-less syllables in Hoklo follow a C-V(-ʔ) (consonant followed by vowel and sometimes a glottal stop) syllable structure. There are a lot of pe...
by amhoanna
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:18 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu
Replies: 14
Views: 38945

Re: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu

Ah-m̃-koh, lán tĩ-leh chioh jī ê sî, ũ--ê sĩ chioh-ì bô chioh-im, ũ--ê tian-tó sĩ chioh-im bô chioh-ì, góa kám-kak bô hiah it-tì-sèng(一致性). 同意。 不こ(m̄ kò)照我想、閩南文「借意」基本上干な(kannaⁿ)借漢文正妥当、不通直直借廣東文中華文日本語。ち点(cit tiám)拍算㑑無同意。 Make no mistake, 我所講兮「漢文」= 傳統书面漢文、無包括「官話文」。 Literary Chinese is a "canonica...
by amhoanna
Sun May 25, 2014 6:15 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 54150

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

I carried out an amateur research project in "cross-dialectal comparative Hokkien-Teochew etymo-phonology", for the purpose of creating a cross-dialectal system of kana to be used together with kanji for writing Hoklo. Conclusion was that the system would be so complex that only linguists ...
by amhoanna
Sun May 25, 2014 5:54 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu
Replies: 14
Views: 38945

Re: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu

Siá 呣 góa ciok cànsêng, góa māⁿ ū ánneⁿ siá--ê. Lán m̄ bián kā Tionghoa-gí cioh jī. 嗯 jī sī chioh 恩 ê im, mā tō-sī kóng "un", kah "hm̀" chiok chiap-kīn. Kám ū siongkīn?! Nā-sī kan-taⁿ siūⁿ-tio̍h Bân-lâm-gí, khó-lêng 呣 (姆: ḿ) ah 响 (向: ǹg), 咉 (央: ng) iā bē-bái, m̄-koh khióng-kiaⁿ ē...
by amhoanna
Sun May 25, 2014 5:48 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Hello I am from Dianbai
Replies: 1
Views: 14389

Re: Hello I am from Dianbai

I am very interested in your language 黎話. Are you able to understand 海話 as well? Are the two languages very close?
by amhoanna
Thu May 15, 2014 8:00 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 54150

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

Yeah, should be safe to say that the two resources were based on different dialects. The following is based on data I put together a few months ago. I "processed" data from eight dialects: 潮阳棉城 潮州潮安 澄海澄城 詔安城関 海豐県城 龍海石碼 金門金沙 泉州当代字彙 Take for example the 馬 vowel. Only 龍海 and 詔安 actually have ...
by amhoanna
Thu May 15, 2014 7:37 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu
Replies: 14
Views: 38945

Re: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu

Cit khoán "iōnggí" sī cin kē tòo tio̍h katī ê búgí ê énghióng--ê--lah. Góa teh kóng Tâigí ê sî sī kóng "hm̀". Ca "Jūhông tián" (台語白話小辞典), i ū siu hm̄, hn̄g, hngh. Bô m̄ tio̍h, góa ū ci̍t ê pêng'iú ē kóng "hn̄g-hn̄g, hn̄g-hn̄g", koh ū "piàntiāu"--leh....
by amhoanna
Thu May 15, 2014 7:27 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Hi from indonesia
Replies: 4
Views: 20697

Re: Hi from indonesia

Indonesian hokkien (or medan hokkien as they are the majority) is almost same with penang hokkien, most of their vocabulary are same. So medan hokkien is zhangzhou based hokkien. Yes, Medan Hokkien and Penang Hokkien seem to be virtually identical on *many* levels. Is Medan Hokkien the "mainst...
by amhoanna
Tue May 13, 2014 6:37 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu
Replies: 14
Views: 38945

Re: Tsū-ngóo kài-siāu

Hoan-gêng, hoan-gêng.

Tâioân lâmpōu ê cngkha o̍h Tâigứ, ciâⁿ sek-ha̍p.

aBûn, "嗯、我知" = "un, góa cai"? 8)
by amhoanna
Fri May 09, 2014 1:21 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 54150

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

I can only come at this synchronically. There are dialects either in the south of Ciangciu or in 海陸豐 where even today "our" "open e" corresponds to /ei/, and our "open o" corresponds to /ou/.

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