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by Ah-bin
Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:27 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Penang Hokkien lessons
Replies: 47
Views: 118947

Re: Penang Hokkien lessons

Ok, so this is a direct quote from the infallible Pope of Penang Hokkien himself. For me, the only subject in English in school is English. The rest is in Bahasa Malaysia. Yet I think in English. I am training myself to get used to thinking in Penang Hokkien now, and am able to do translations from ...
by Ah-bin
Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:48 pm
Forum: Translations
Topic: tamoe's needs help for hokkien translation thread
Replies: 13
Views: 87468

Re: tamoe's needs help for hokkien translation thread

Sorry Tamoe, I didn't look at the forum for a while. I can try and say these in Northern Malaysian/Penang/Kedah Hokkien. I am not a native speaker, but I've thought about some of these things for years. You can search for a lot about Penang Hokkien grammar in this forum, and find some of the most re...
by Ah-bin
Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:31 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 55648

Re: Medhurst, Si̍p-ngó͘ Im and Chiang-chiu Phonology

Amhoanna, I have been thinking similar thoughts about the action verbs. I have been leaving them as squares for the time being rather than using the Mandarin ones like 揣 for chhōe get on my nerves. Then again I don't mind reading all kinds of Hokkien character choices, as long as I can read the text...
by Ah-bin
Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:22 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Penang Hokkien lessons
Replies: 47
Views: 118947

Re: Penang Hokkien lessons

A lot of reading material has been added to the site recently, and I feel it is time to warn prospective learners that it is not the amazing treasure trove of teaching materials it purports to be. Unfortunately it appears that the more reading material and sample sentence added to this site, the les...
by Ah-bin
Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:29 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words
Replies: 3
Views: 19198

Re: Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words

This makes a lot of sense. and it is also the sort of thing that gets missed when people are explaining how to say things in Hokkien. recently I came across "chi-le si ichit-hang e kheh-lang e chiah" (= This is a kind of Hakka food) in a site purporting to teach a kind of Hokkien (I'll let...
by Ah-bin
Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:11 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words
Replies: 3
Views: 19198

Malaysian Hokkien Occupation Words

A question has been brewing in my mind. Do native Hokkien speakers prefer to express: "He is a greengrocer" as "He sells vegetables" or as "He is a vegetable seller"? I means Hokkien prefer this way of expressing occupations: I bē-bah 賣肉 – s/he is a butcher I bē-chhài 賣...
by Ah-bin
Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:22 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: 逐个好!我是新來的人嘍
Replies: 11
Views: 28893

Re: 逐个好!我是新來的人嘍

Welcome to the Hokkien forum, Colin. I also started off by learning Taiwanese, before I was distracted by Southeast Asian Hokkien. Most of my basic knowledge of how Hokkien works grammatically came from answers I got here from people like Sim! You won't find any answers as detailed or well thought o...
by Ah-bin
Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:57 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Teochew in Southern Thailand - reports from the field
Replies: 5
Views: 24526

Re: Teochew in Southern Thailand - reports from the field

Thanks Limet, yes, I won't say "southern Thailand" for that area again. This time a went and nosed around Bangkok Chinatown around Yaowarat Road for the day. In that area it is still possible to speak to people in Teochew, even with the Hokkien words like khòaⁿ 看 and kóng 講 that are almost...
by Ah-bin
Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:50 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Pan-Minnanism
Replies: 17
Views: 52227

Re: Pan-Minnanism

That's good to know, I shall work out what that accent is from a bit of research and try my best. What i would eventually like to do is make dictionaries for all the various types of Chinese from SEA, Borneo Hakka, Thai Teochew, Bun-sio Hainanese as spoken in Malaysia, and so on. I've heard also tha...
by Ah-bin
Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:04 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Pan-Minnanism
Replies: 17
Views: 52227

Re: Pan-Minnanism

With every man and his dog making new Romanisations for Hokkien, the prospect of unity seems a long way off! Welcome back. I began learning Teochew recently, the Tiô'iôⁿ style. I've been going over the sound system of Teochew, Hokkien, and Haklau (海陸豐) to see what needs to be done to set up a system...
by Ah-bin
Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:42 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Creolised Hokkien
Replies: 1
Views: 15152

Creolised Hokkien

I've decided to write a bit about creolisation of Penang Hokkien due to intense contact with other languages, namely English, Malay, Cantonese, and Mandarin. These four languages have affected the structure of Penang Hokkien in many different ways. I'm not listing these features as anything one shou...
by Ah-bin
Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:50 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Penang Hokkien lessons
Replies: 47
Views: 118947

Re: Penang Hokkien lessons

Okay, time for a return to this thread. The spellings in the Penang Hokkien lessons have not improved with age. Now they are such a mess with exceptions everywhere, and it gets worse by the week By the time you have learnt all of the pointless exceptions to rules which are barely stuck to to start w...
by Ah-bin
Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:54 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Singular root of lán?
Replies: 17
Views: 52462

Re: Singular root of lán?

Just something to add. I have a suspicion that Vietnamese ta may have picked up the meaning of "our" through an enforced parallelism with written Chinese. Back when Vietnamese could only be written in Nôm, books for learning the script consisted of rhymed lists of vocabulary set out in &qu...
by Ah-bin
Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:09 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Second Edition of de Gijzel - a review
Replies: 2
Views: 17214

Second Edition of de Gijzel - a review

Having just got to have a look at Luc de Gijzel's new dictionary, I can say there are marked improvements. I found the old edition useful, but was always wary about picking words from it, as I knew there were some problems with definition and vocabulary choice. The first great improvement is the ton...
by Ah-bin
Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:50 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Tan Choon Hoe and I
Replies: 10
Views: 25356

Re: Tan Choon Hoe and I

I have a few questions and comments about all of these things. To save Penang Hokkien means to preserve it, not change it. I would say not changing it is impossible, since it is changing all the time. POJ has had its chance, and it failed. The writing system has been around for a century. It has bee...

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