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by ransek
Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:50 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Foochow language
Replies: 6
Views: 9670

Re: Foochow language

Hi Ah-bin: thanks for the info. I will pm you shortly. Foochow is full of in-migrants and yes a lot of local families chose to speak to their children in Mandarin. It is kind of sad to see that a whole generation of Foochow kids becoming monolingual in heavily accented Mandarin. Still, I'm puzzled b...
by ransek
Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:32 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Foochow language
Replies: 6
Views: 9670

Re: Foochow language

Hi Mark: In Foochow the language is still alive. People above 40 use it extensively (e.g. on the streets and among friends/family members). I got the impression that it is the kids from rich family and city center that have lost the dialect. My friend told me speaking Hokciu was considered "bad...
by ransek
Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:20 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: Foochow language
Replies: 6
Views: 9670

Foochow language

It's an off-topic but I guess it's not totally irrelevant. After all Foochow is the capital of Hokkien :lol: Hopefully some of you guys are also interested and will shed some lights. Just took a short trip to Foochow and had been fascinated with the Hok-ciu language. Although more heavily influenced...
by ransek
Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:09 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi everyone! I just got back from my Thanksgiving vacation. Seems like everybody has been busy. SimL: Thanks for your nice words. I agree that it's common for people to think their own lives as normal and boring. It's just that I always consider lives of oversea Chinese (esp Malaysian Chinese) to be...
by ransek
Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:33 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Maybe an "Arabic"-type solution would've been best: a "reconstructed" "Classic Chinese" language could've been fabricated and installed as a pan-Sinitic lingua franca. In practice, people would've tended to use it as little as possible, and local languages would've bee...
by ransek
Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:46 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi Mark, Great to know your interesting background! One of my good friends from college was from KL. He speaks Cantonese natively but always claimed Mandarin was his mother tongue, and he just "picked up" Cantonese from his family. I think it has to do with the Chinese education in MSia (h...
by ransek
Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:21 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

This implies that Sino languages are somehow inherently superior to Tungusic languages. I'd also support any "retroactive prevention" :lol: of Mandarin becoming THE national language of China, but not b/c it somehow went to seed after being Tungusicized. That kind of reasoning is "me...
by ransek
Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:39 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi SimL, Glad to know that my post stimulated more discussions in this forum. I am trying read to a few old threads everyday. But frankly speaking my Hokkien isn't up to the level to understand many details, but I do enjoy the high-level discussions and interesting stories you guys told. Is this the...
by ransek
Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:33 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi Ah-bin, Thanks for joining the discussion. I look forward to learning more from you! >>I also wanted to welcome Ransek along. It's so rare and wonderful to find any PRC Chinese who cares much about their local language, let alone the languages of other areas enough to go into a detailed study of ...
by ransek
Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:04 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi Mark, Thanks for the books you recommended. I will look them up once I got time. And I read your post on Penang Hokkien. Very interesting and informative. As for the video clip of 宋慶齡's speech, it is more like a "literary reading" largely in her native Wu but still there was some mixing...
by ransek
Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:33 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi SimL, I completely agree with you that nothing is "black and white" and people tend to generalize what they observed and experienced. Surprisingly, this seems to be the ONLY active forum in this discussion site. And I'm glad to see so many interesting and in-depth (and equally important...
by ransek
Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:20 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi Mark, So great to know that you are so interested in the Wu language. Yes Suzhou Wu is my dialect and you were right about the fact that Suzhou Wu had been the prestige dialcet of Wu region. The reason is that Suzhou was the cultural (and economic) center of Wu region. The popularity of 蘇州評彈 also...
by ransek
Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:27 pm
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi amhoanna, Thanks very much for the info about Coanciu Hokkien varieties in TW! From your screen name i thought you were truly a "hoanna" (Taiwanese Aborigines) 8) . It is sad to see that so many Wu people have given up our mother tongue, both in and out of the Wu region. May I ask which...
by ransek
Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:55 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Hi SimL, Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation! I agree with amhoanna that you should definitely write a book! And I'm very glad that I joined such a forum. Never expected so much knowledge and great interaction like this! Now I see Penang Hokkien has a really long history! So do Baba Hokkien a...
by ransek
Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:02 am
Forum: Hokkien (Minnan) language
Topic: An Interesting interview in Hokkien
Replies: 36
Views: 40360

Re: An Interesting interview in Hokkien

Thanks for sharing your story! I'm always confused with the concept of "Baba". Does Baba refer to Chinese immigrants who moved to SEA very long time ago, or those who intermarried with Malays? And I heard Baba family speak Malay with some Hokkien vocabulary; but some sources claimed that t...

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